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Old 04-14-2004, 03:35 AM   #61
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Chuckles the clown.

Chuckles has said they will get everyone.
Who crashed down their buildings and spoiled their fun
of torturing children placed on the rack
and messing with people with no power to fight back.

He wants to say clearly, as clear as a bell
that those who oppose him can go straight to hell.
That those who would fight him and his murderous crew
will all be gotten, yes you and me too.

Bin laden did not heed this cowardly poltroon.
Instead sent his ship, buildings, and pentagon to ruin.
Has warned that his soldiers can strike him at will.
Chuckles has indeed been given a very bitter pill
to swallow, digest and to feel its effects
before his own city is turned to a wreck.

Now it is only a matter of time
before Chuckles' attention will turn on a dime
to look at, abosrb, and then recognise
the coming of his own and his city's demise.

And when it finally happens it will be good for a laugh.
He will look for his freedom and search for his staff.
But they will be buried under brick and burned slag.
When the end finally meets him it will be a real drag.

Now Chuckles go and blow hard on some other post.
When bin Laden is finished you will look like a ghost.
Go support some other regime that suits only you
where you can tangle and wallow, eat baloney and screw.
 
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Old 04-18-2004, 07:37 AM   #63
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Old 05-12-2004, 11:05 AM   #64
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Re: September 11th

9-11 'hijacker' told all, FBI didn't believe him
In 2000, Islamist trained for mission, divulged plot to fly jets into buildings

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A British Muslim trained to be a 9-11 hijacker told an FBI counterterrorism taskforce in 2000 of a plot by terrorists to fly passengers planes into buildings, but the agents did not believe him.

The 29-year-old al-Qaida recruit – interrogated for three weeks in Newark, N.J. – passed a lie detector test, the Times of London reported.

The man, whose name was withheld by the paper because of threats from militants, was a waiter in a curry restaurant in Manchester, England.

He was lured by al-Qaida at a mosque in Oldham, England, and attended a terrorist training school in Pakistan.

The interrogation came after the man had second thoughts about his suicide mission and surrendered to police, the Times said.

He had gambled away thousands of British pounds given to him by al-Qaida, reported the paper.

At that time, 18 months before the 9-11 attack, other hijackers were entering the United States and enrolling at flight schools.

The story arose from inquiries by the U.S. independent 9-11 commission examining the attacks, which has led to a reopening of the case.

The man was brought back to Britain in 2000 by two FBI agents and handed to British security officials at London's Heathrow airport. He was questioned by Special Branch, the arm of British Police that deals with national security matters.

The FBI, which wants the man to be a witness in its investigation, has criticized British authorities for ignoring a request to find him after Sept. 11, but Special Branch officers claim they went back to him and took "appropriate action," the Times said.

The man was born in Britain but grew up in Pakistan before returning to Oldham at 16. He ran up huge debts gambling, the Times said, at the time a recruiter approached him at his local mosque, offering money for "a job."

He accepted.

"If your life has no color and a mullah says you can be a hero by dying, why not?" he said, according to the Times. "I think there are a lot of frustrated Muslim youths in Britain who feel the same way."

In Lahore, Pakistan, he was trained in hijacking and became familiar with a Boeing cockpit.

"I knew they wanted me to do some kind of operation in which I would die but my life was such a mess that in my mind I was already dead," he said, according to the London paper.

"At that time if they had told me to strap a bomb to my body and blow myself up I would have done it as easily as taking a glass of water to drink."

He returned to Britian, where he was given 5,000 pounds, then was sent to New York where he was to meet an operative at the airport.

In the meantime, however, he married and had a baby.

On the flight to New York, thoughts of his family changed his mind and he decided instead to slip away to Atlantic City, N.J., where he lost his money in casinos then turned himself in.



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Old 06-15-2004, 06:31 AM   #65
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Evidence Shows Sept. 11 Attacks Were Delayed - Post

Jun 15, 2:34 AM (ET)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The panel investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has unearthed evidence that al Qaeda leaders had postponed the operation from an intended date in the spring of that year because their lead hijacker was not ready, The Washington Post said on Tuesday.
Citing unidentified sources privy to the panel's findings, the Post reported that the operation's suspected mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who has been in U.S. custody since March 2003, convinced al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to delay the attacks from May or June.

Evidence of a date postponement, which was obtained from U.S.-held detainees, is expected to be discussed by the 10-member independent commission on Wednesday, as it holds its final public hearings this week into how al Qaeda pulled off its spectacular attacks against U.S. targets, the Post said.

Until now, the newspaper said, U.S. investigators have cited evidence that indicates the suicide hijackings that killed more than 3,000 people in New York, Pennsylvania and at the Pentagon probably were initially planned to be carried out on or about Sept. 11, and if there was an alternate date, it probably would have been later in the year.

The Post quoted an official who has seen the panel's draft report that has been circulated among government and commission officials as saying the findings are based on "intelligence coming in that they wanted an earlier date. It's something really new."

Although bin Laden wanted the hijackings to be carried out in May or June, he agreed to delay them because lead hijacker Mohammed Atta and his conspirators had not started reconnaissance flights until May, the Post quoted sources as saying.

The evidence suggests that the decision to delay the attacks came about for operational reasons and not in response to heightened security in the early summer of 2001, it said.

The panel, formally known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, is due to present its findings on July 26 after a year and a half of work in which it heard from more than 1,000 people in 10 countries, including President Bush, some in closed sessions.


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You mean they were having an operation?
 
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Oh yes. The attacks of September 11, 2001. Too bad so sad. I had known very well of those attacks since playing around on the internet with some people from Saudi Arabia and other places in 1997. I must have told 100 people about them, many in very clear detail as to when where and how with vivid descriptions of the WTC and the pentagon and drawn pictures of it and all that good stuff. People chose to ignore what I was telling them. Some even went so far as to denounce me personally. Oh well. What can one say to a bunch of lying, arrogant Americans except that you all probably had it coming anyway. There is a very good argument for that point;however, positing that argument is tantamount to casting pearls before swine.

Therefore, let it suffice for the moment to say----God bless Osama bin laden, hero of the east. He is the only man with the guts to stand up to the terrorist, bully boys in American government and their slaughterers in the military industrial establishment. Sic semper tyrannis. Allahu akbar.

Mr bin Laden----FLORIDA FLORIDA FLORIDA----It has the country's largest tourist industry. Its government is a continuing criminal enterprise. Tourist dollars are used to finance the murder of innocents in the lands of the Muslims.
 
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An American official an an evidence existence alleges on a previous Iraqi officer relation in an organization the base


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And criticizer accuse the destruction regarding weapons in an use an an sinner intelligence information comprehensive alleged in Iraq between the base deeprooted and for paying to the war and the links.

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And said ' address for terrifying political pressures.. All so a thing remove with him will grab him this side or that in the elections year '.

And a report result contradicts the committee that past spread on the Wednesday 'Aada' excuses an Bush administration before the war that her leaders United States on Iraq in her counting and.

And Sen. said my a democratic Bush competitor is a President in the past week for people condemns 'Lamreekee ' are the truths no His Tdaam.'

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Re: September 11th

Looks like a posting about this latest Reuters article:

Iraqi Officer Tied to Al Qaeda - 9/11 Commissioner
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Re: September 11th

9/11 Commission Says Hijackers Got Help Inside U.S.

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Monday, June 28, 2004

WASHINGTON – The FBI long has contended that not one al-Qaida operative in the United States collaborated with the 19 hijackers in the Sept. 11 attacks. Yet the commission investigating the attacks has identified two Muslim men who might have had advance knowledge of the plot.

The commission found that two hijackers got substantial help from Mohdar Abdullah and Anwar Aulaqi after settling in California in 2000. The bipartisan panel created by Congress said it could not discount the possibility the men knew the hijackers' plans.


Abdullah, who recently was deported to Yemen, helped the hijackers get driver's licenses. He bragged, while in U.S. custody after the hijackings, that he had known the attacks were coming.

Aulaqi, a cleric who left the United States shortly after Sept. 11, 2001, introduced the two hijackers, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, to other people who helped provide living arrangements in this country.

The previously undisclosed information about Abdullah and Aulaqi was contained in one of the commission reports released this month.

The FBI is seeking to find and interview Aulaqi about his contacts with al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. It is unclear if U.S. officials know where Aulaqi is.

FBI spokesman Mike Kortan said the Sept. 11 investigation was "ongoing and active" and that any new evidence will be examined closely.

A congressional investigation has concluded that the discovery of al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar in the United States probably represented the best chance for the FBI and CIA to disrupt the plot.

Both were known to the CIA because of connections to the October 2000 terrorist bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen that killed 17 U.S. sailors. Both had contacts with a longtime FBI informant.

FBI agents were searching for them in the weeks before the attacks because their names were on terrorism watch lists.

Al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were among the first four al-Qaida members chosen in 1999 by Osama bin Laden for the hijacking plot proposed by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, or KSM, the Sept. 11 mastermind now in U.S. custody.

Much of the commission report is derived from classified interrogations of Mohammed and another senior al-Qaida planner in custody, Ramzi Binalshibh.

In general, the 19 hijackers were told to blend in while in the United States by avoiding mosques and fellow Islamic extremists. But al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were different.

"Recognizing that neither Hazmi nor Mihdhar spoke English or was familiar with Western culture, KSM instructed these operatives to seek help from the local Muslim community," the report said.

Mohammed told the men to settle in San Diego. So they went there in February 2000 from Los Angeles with help from Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi who had an apartment complex there. Although Bayoumi helped the hijackers settle in San Diego, there is no evidence he knew they were terrorists, investigators say.

Al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar made friends in San Diego with some foreign students at the Rabat Mosque in suburban La Mesa. One was Mohdar Abdullah, who the report said was among those students who "appear to have held extremist sympathies."

Abdullah helped al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar get driver's licenses and enroll in schools in California. Shortly after the attacks, Abdullah told FBI agents in an interview he knew nothing about the plot.

But later, while held on immigration charges, Abdullah bragged to follow inmates that he had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 mission and even had instructions to pick up plot operatives at Los Angeles International Airport before the attacks, according to the commission's report.

A fellow inmate wrote the Homeland Department last spring about Abdullah's claim, according to Jacqueline Maguire, an FBI agent working on the Sept. 11 investigation.

The FBI could not corroborate the inmate's story, she told the commission during its public hearing two weeks ago.

"Another inmate gave another story and the details differed quite significantly," Maguire said.

Ultimately, the FBI chose not to seek criminal charges against Abdullah. The bureau did have Abdullah deported to Yemen in May. The CIA was aware of the decision and knows he is in Yemen, Maguire said.

According to the commission's report, Al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar also established a relationship with Aulaqi, an imam at Rabat Mosque. Aulaqi later moved to Virginia and worshipped at the Dar al-Hijra mosque in Falls Church, Va. Early in 2001, al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar drove across the country, settled in Alexandria, Va., and began attending Dar al-Hijra.

The commission report cited information that Aulaqi had "extremist ties, and the circumstances surrounding his relationship with the hijackers remains suspicious. However, we have not uncovered evidence that he associated with the hijackers knowing they were terrorists."

At the Falls Church mosque, the imam introduced the hijackers to a Jordanian, Eyad al Rababah, who helped them find an apartment.

In May 2001, al Rababah suggested that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar move with him to Fairfield, Conn. The three eventually traveled to Paterson, N.J., where they rented an apartment with two other al-Qaida operatives.

The commission report said that despite this assistance, there is "insufficient basis" to conclude that Rababah knew that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were terrorists.

Though al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar did not succeed in their original mission, to learn English and become pilots, they were part of the team that commandeered the plane that crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11.

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A special file: eternal old deliberate for an operation 11 September 9/11

The renewal forum the sections - the accessibility the political forum a special file: eternal old deliberate for an operation 11 September 9/11

A special file: eternal old deliberate for an operation 11 September 9/11


The part is first

The name: eternal old

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A 'Lmeelad: 14 date April (April) 1965

The age: seventh thirty and

The length: 5 feet and 4 inches (65r1 a meter)

A generator: Kuwait

The nationality: own sexual Kuwaiti Pakistani

School qualified: an American North Carolino university

The hair color: sepia a black

The two eyes color: honey-colored

The dynamic name: 'Lamakh

The domain in the organization: preside the military organization service for the base and the coordinator the field

His attributes dynamic: professional in a his traits and his shape change in all easinesses and a simplicity


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The details:

The 1998 year was in a beginning Bin Laden searches of a new diagram.

Were eternal old owns a visibility new awesome, but men and was to the money in a need

Then the two men meeting was in Qandahar. That meeting was he second between Bin Laden 'Sama eternal sheikh and

That met Bin Laden the 1996 year collects planes between the international commerce center with a percussion percussion regarding a proponent

He tried sheikh eternal, in a relative participation his others and, the international commerce center destruction the 1993 year

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The 1999 beginning sent Sheik Osama Bin Laden in a urgent request

A eternal old (the cerebrum) presence for his interview rapidly in Afghanistan

And in presence reach him in the organization her while Mohammad Atef ( 'Bouhfs a Egyptian)

For the endorsement on his plan and a support "the base" its in all

Began the diagram in four eternal probable suicidal Al-Muhdar Marwan and Al-Shahiy

This meeting that a leader senior came him and the base humored talks and plans and big debates very


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An end the meeting said Bin Laden to have agreed an old idea on an execution

The passengers planes Bstkhdam in an attack inside United States


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Old Kuwaiti was eternal the origin that received his education in United States and lived in Pakistan

He has suggested launched the attacks in an flying use tenth in the beginning in one time

And wanted are not drive he in his soul the attack in the latter plane.

He was old want to kill the plane first

Then lower American in one airport in the plane then throw a word hostile for America before destroy the plane and himself kill



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07-05-2004 05:53 PM

ملف خاص: خالد شيخ العقل المدبر لعملية 11 سبتمبر 11/9


الجزء الأول

الاسم : خالد شيخ محمد

تاريخ الميلاد:14 أبريل (نيسا&#1606 1965م

العمر: السابعة والثلاثين

الطول: 5 أقدام و 4 بوصات (65ر1 مت&#1585

المولد : الكويت

الجنسية : يمتلك جنسيتان الكويتية والباكستانية

المؤهل الدراسي : جامعة نورث كارولينا الأميركية

لون الشعر: بني داكن / أسود

لون العينين: عسلي

الأسم الحركي : الـمـخ

المجال في التنظيم :يرأس جهاز التنظيم العسكري للقاعدة والمنسق الميداني

صفاته الحركية : محترف في تغيير ملامحه وشكله بكل سهولة ويسر

التفاصيل:

في مطلع عام 1998 كان بن لادن يبحث عن مخطط جديد.

وكان خالد شيخ محمد يملك رؤية رهيبة وجديدة ، لكنه كان بحاجة الى المال والرجال

ثم كان لقاء الرجلين في قندهار. كان ذلك اللقاء هو الثاني بين اسامة بن لادن وخالد شيخ محمد

الذي التقى بن لادن عام 1996 بشأن مقترح يجمع بين تفجير مركز التجارة العالمي وتفجير طائرات

حاول خالد شيخ، بمشاركة قريب له وآخرين، تدمير مركز التجارة العالمي عام 1993


وفي أوائل 1999 أرسل الشيخ أسامة بن لادن بطلب عاجل

حضور خالد شيخ محمد ( المخ ) لمقابلته بسرعة في أفغانستان

وابلغه بحضور المسؤول العسكري في التنظيم حينها محمد عاطف (ابو حفص المصر&#1610

للمصادقة على خطته وتأييد «القاعدة» لها بالكامل

بدأ المخطط بأربعة انتحاريين محتملين خالد المحضار ومروان الشحي

وفي هذا الاجتماع الذي حضره كبار قادة القاعدة ودارت احاديث وخطط ونقاشات كبيرة جداً


وفي نهاية الإجتماع قال بن لادن أن القاعدة قد وافقت على تنفيذ فكرة شيخ محمد

بستخدام طائرات الركاب في هجوم داخل الولايات المتحدة


وكان خالد شيخ محمد الكويتي الأصل الذي تلقى تعليمه في الولايات المتحدة وعاش في باكستان

قد اقترح في البداية شن الهجمات باستخدام عشر طائرات في آن واحد

وأراد أن يقود هو بنفسه الهجوم بالطائرة الأخيرة .

وكان شيخ محمد يريد أن يقتل أولاً كافة ركاب الطائرة

ثم يهبط بالطائرة في أحد المطارات الأميركية ثم يلقي كلمة معادية لأميركا قبل أن يدمر الطائرة ويقتل نفسه



نهاية الجزء الأول

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the relation real between Sheik 'Sama and the international center

the relation real between Sheik 'Sama and the international center


The international commerce center, that his engineer said Meenwyoura of him Yamasakee he is " the evidence on the humankind cooperates an exit to their greatness ", a wreckage and a soil sleeps and wires now so a state.
Follows some truths and numbers of the building:
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He increased from 200 thousand persons (their from the tourists) were visit him all a day

He was the building does on an area 12 Million square foot.
The weight 'Lajmalee for services the acclimatization alone reached 49 tons.
At the beginning the ninth hour the attack morning on him, he was the building embraces 35 thousand persons.
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He was in the world in his longer hope to are overstepped them towers 'Lbtrouna in Kwalalmbour and will staple in Chicago.
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His services were telephonic (as in her 75 thousand telephones) need to thousand kilometers from the wires.
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The two towers " has pushed me that to find the papers between that in a personal review archives old a datum deserves returning on her content after a century quarter of the time. The international commerce center was in New York a compositional marvel he increased from her architectural, the Americans have persevered on this hitting of the solutions distinguished architectural in an attribute " stenographic " in the fallout treated and functional technical, that devoted her Ideas school ('Lbawhaws) German her Wahbah and to them Wtbqouha in a skill through group architectural 'Lalman migrant to 'Meerka before the World War II an escape who and their month Mees are Drrouh

And lurk that 'Laaajazalansha'ee in the height excessive for the building 412m and a number his floors that link to 110 floors. As for architectural so lurk in sleeve 'Lfda'at specified for the building 'Ladaree that and employed for the purpose of wintered from her official as of her indigenous. As for the side the technician so for this terrifying pertains in the exploited services from the humankind that surround him the building of the sheer moving facilities and the protection measures your Nahee of a control system and the censure strict.
He was the selection has signed Meenourou on the diagram that the Japanese architect decided him Yamasakee, that and were represent a Hdathiya trend were and has risen in it the building school the Japanese far the war the second take form and In returning. That be affected 'Laama'r in currents the twenty century her Major and, as of them of whom her body represented the architect eligibly Kanzoutank that showed that the skill in the Olympic games complex shrubs in Tokyo and in 1964 followed her. And this architect selection was from a door for your exceptional important hill the confession and the admiration in that.

For this 'Khteer places increased an importance that the heart considers pulsator for the economy movement and the American and the world sign the fact Manhatn between Hdsoun to the west in Al-Jazeera and an east a Harleem river, in New York City. As of quaint that are Al-Jazeera that her land considers today 'Laghla

He was in the world 'Shtraha in a price seven thousand dollars Netherlander from her owners red Indian in for the seventh century first ten then obsessed 'Lanjleez consecutively on her. And the project sits from that on 6 hectares the expensive land what a constructive selection made the two twins towers get dressed an right use and a logic. The project may guarantees the year 1973 except the two towers on four buildings at his opening attached other, fry a height. 'Oulahamtkouna who eighth floors blocked her American and the second third and who ninth floors invite (Blaza the northerner and the southerner) fourth and hotel Mtkoun who 250 room fall go east the position.

The architect has chosen Yamasakee to distribute that the surrounded surrounding apparently sheer blocks in where limit in her circle a field and his area height two hectares which which third the area 'Lajmaliya. And for am the two towers planning was a new matter this hitting who familiar in the areas division has been and that in a closed structural selection a heart Ybna from the armed concrete that assist her a structure surrounded ferrous. And gather this the core in protected her on the movement vertical who elevators and pieces and stores and a sewer and extensions technique for the air and the electricity and the water and the gas and as your abjection sessions waters. KA a burning is that and the core her melting and a cause in collapse the tower. And in that guards open areas 836.100 specialized her area in all a tower. 28.800 thousand and the windows that and blooming reaches her number in all a tower on the outside encompass her 21000 windows enter who during which luminous to the building inside in an area glassy her quantity 28.2M. The facades Wheetan execute beforehand big from blackboards manufactured sheer the situation her suffering (11t3m), and Mtkouna from three lines who vertical communicate a weight all from her 22 tons. The iron has used the steel in the structure he. As for the extended garage crypt on five floors under the land he cans are embrace two thousand from the vehicles. A midst that the gatherings " the giant " and the blocks the engineer was 'Lansha'ee to an account forced massed terrifying to endure that of the basis the weights your Nahee of digging its abstrusely in where touch The correct rocky land that 21 fall on a decrease and M. And in your abjection has been on the basis block 1 endure a his quantity weight over her.Million he hummed from the building. And the sleeve increases big on that in the consideration who Rwad the center the employees number quantity everyday in that firm Ba thousand diagnosed. As for the visitors and the tourists who so thousand estimated in an average everyday 'Lmrajaaeen a person.
That has invited the sleeve take 'Mkaniya in the calculation from the humankind to making providing sheer the plain fast. Where all a tower from the towers contain high on 104 elevators sign 'Lkhrsaniya in the core, and she cans to understand 55 passengers once and move from 'Lsraa on two kinds, 'Hdahafa'q 'Lsraaa walks along partial big heights from a length The building or a faculty his high signs 'Lkhrsaniya in the core on, and she cans are understand 55 a passenger one-time and move on two kinds from 'Lsraa, his 'Hdaha Superior.

And the second kind slowdown a quickness and in lifting undertakes to the floors vocable. Fast from her her quicknesses arrive in her while to 36 addressed in the hour. The sheer movement in where distributed Tkhts in all on three categories has studied from her a group from that distributed the movement first between the floors ( 1 A 44) and the second between The floors ( 44 A 78) third and between the floors ( 78 A 110). He has occurred this system manufactured " 'Lmsaaadee " in where manage the imagination who during which that the tower one Mtkoun who one fall over the other. So the person example that 65 intend the ascent to the floor be imperative on him are go up until the floor 44 in the kind fast then leave him to ride the kind slow until the floor 65. And in the principle soul facilitating Yseer on him who 78 want in where the elevator rides fast without a stoppage until the floor to arrive to the floor as of him start in the kind taking slow until the floor 95. As for who the ascent intends the earthling until the charitable floor from the floor (110) are so the time that be preoccupied him the elevator fast for reaching to that height communicate accurate only. Thus the time has estimated him appraised for all who want to use this system nearly to any floors.

The ceilings were in her total and a precedent manufactured in where an her monument operation was in her places has undertaken in a time has been short standard during the execution operation a cutter on parts notified her dimensions (18 T95m). As for lifter hydraulic especially that 'Lkhrsaniya were fastened over the structural core has been at her the ability in an installment all three floors one-time. The constructional structures clinch be preoccupied and the external closure for all three floors

In a his quantity time means thus ten days all the tower floors an installment may binds during a year, visit the boast operations to her. Was and 'L'aamda the structure surrounding wrapped in a material decisive thermal her enwrapping and who 'L'lmnyoum an endurance the windows and the elements for the facades in where the limit inclusion the idealist of the separation. Has ordered the project 700 million dollars in his while, KA are and this amount equal a treasury numerous from countries, and chewed her devastation ordered more than that she a dialectic " the building and the devastation ". While he was alone today became frequent on the land and an upland what imitate him in Dubai Wkwalambour that boast today in her bargeman twins who the zipper and the time and announces in a competition between parents and the past friends

ماهي العلاقة الحقيقية بين الشيخ اسامة والمركز العالمي

مركز التجارة العالمي، الذي قال عنه مهندسه مينويورا ياماساكي انه «الدليل على ان تعاون البشر منفذ الى عظمتهم»، يرقد الآن حطاما وترابا واسلاكا فولاية ملتوية. فيما يلي بعض حقائق وارقام عن المبنى:
اكثر من 50 ألف شخص كانوا يعملون بداخله.
افتتح عام 1970 بعد ثمانية اعوام من أعمال البناء.
برجاه الشهيران يزنان اكثر من 1.5 مليون طن.
اكثر من 200 ألف شخص (نصفهم من السيا&#1581 كانوا يزورونه كل يوم


كان المبنى يقوم على مساحة 12 مليون قدم مربع.
الوزن الاجمالي لاجهزة التكييف وحدها بلغ 49 طنا.
بحلول الساعة التاسعة صباح الهجوم عليه، كان المبنى يحتضن 35 ألف شخص.
اختير مهندسه مينويورا ياماساكي من بين متنافسين كان بينهم آي ام باي الذي شيد امتداد متحف اللوفر في باريس.
كان برجاه الأطول في العالم الى ان تجاوزتهما ابراج البترونا في كوالالمبور وسيرز في شيكاغو.
يبلغ طول الكابلات التي كانت تمد 12 طابقاً تضم مكاتب سمسرة البورصة بالكهرباء من أصل 110 طواب&#1602 حوالي 20 ألف كيلومتر.
كانت خدماته الهاتفية (بما فيها 75 ألف هات&#1601 تحتاج الى 32 ألف كيلومتر من الاسلاك.
كان الهجوم الاول عليه عام 1983 بسيارة مفخخة وقتل في الانفجار ستة اشخاص وجرح اكثر من ألف آخرين.
قبل هجوم 1983 كان كل المبنى يضم ثلاث كاميرات امنية، زاد عددها الى اكثر من 300 بعده.
كان المبنى في ا لاساس حلما لدى الاخوين ديفيد ونيلسون روكفلر. وكان الاول رئيسا لمجلس ادارة بنك تشيز مانهاتن والثاني حاكما لولاية نيويورك. وكانا يريدان اطلاق اسميهما على البرجين لكن عمدة نيويورك اصر على تسميته «مركز التجارة العالمي».
انتقلت ملكيته مؤخرا الى شركة «سلفرستين بروبرتيز» التي يملكها اليهودي ايرف سلفرستين، احد اثرى رجال الاعمال في نيويورك، ودفع مبلغ 3.2 مليار دولار ثمنا له.
كان المبنى يضم اسرع مصعد في الولايات المتحدة. وكان عدد ابواب مصاعده 20 ألفا.
صورت فيه هوليوود مناظر من اكثر من ثلاثين فيلما اشهرها «كينج كونج» (1976) الذي دفع بالمبنى الى مصاف الصدارة وسط الآثار المعمارية في العالم.
ثلاثة اشخاص هبطوا بالمظلة بنجاح من سقفه.
عام 1974 انتقل مغامر فرنسي من برج لآخر على سلك مشدود بينهما.
يدر على مالكه ارباحا سنوية قدرها 110 آلاف مليون دولار.
كان العاملون فيه يستهلكون 87 طنا من الاطعمة يوميا.
معدل استهلاك الكهرباء اليومي فيه كان يتجاوز معظم المدن الصغيرة في الولايات المتحدة. وكانت فاتورته 3 ملايين دولار كل يوم.
تدفئته كانت تستلزم 320 ألف كيلومتر من الانابيب.
اشتغل في بنائه اكثر من 10 آلاف عامل لقي 60 منهم حتفهم في حوادث مختلفة.
الاسمنت المسلح الذي استخدم في بنائه يكفي لتشييد رصيف مشاة يمتد من نيويورك في الشرق الى واشنطن في الغرب.
فولاذه يكفي لمد ثلاثة جسور جديدة الى بروكلين.
شهد المبنى ارتكاب 19 جريمة قتل بين جدرانه
كان يحتاج لاكثر من 250 علبة طلاء سنويا.
مبنى التجارة العالمي هو الأثر الاول من نوعه الذي يدمر في هجوم كهذا
د. علي الثويني
أسهبت الأخبار في بواكير السبعينات عن معجزة بنائية كانت قد أقيمت في اميركا، بما شدنا اليها في جذوة حماس الشباب واخترنا البحث فيها من ضمن نشاطنا خلال بواكير سنين دراسة العمارة في أواسط السبعينات. وبعد «خراب

البرجين» فقد دفعني ذلك بمراجعة الأرشيف الشخصي لأجد بين تلك الأوراق العتيقة بعد ربع قرن من الزمان معلومة تستأهل إعادة الاطلاع على محتواها. كان مركز التجارة العالمي في
نيويورك أعجوبة إنشائية أكثر منها معمارية، فقد دأب الاميركيون على هذا الضرب من الحلول المعمارية المتميزة بصفة «الاختزالية» في المساقط الوظيفية والمعالجات الفنية، التي كرستها أفكار مدرسة (الباوهاو&#1587 الألمانية ووهبتها إليهم وطبقوها بحذاقة من خلال رهط المعماريين الالمان المهاجرين الى اميركا قبيل الحرب العالمية الثانية هربا من النازية وأشهرهم ميس فان درروه وفالتر كروبيوس.
ويكمن ذلك الاعجاز الانشائي بالارتفاع المفرط للمبنى 412م وعدد طوابقه الذي يصل الى 110 طوابق. أما الحذلقة المعمارية فتكمن في كم الفضاءات المخصصة للمبنى الاداري والتي وظفت لأغراض شتى منها الرسمي ومنها الأهلي. أما الجانب
التقني فيتعلق بالخدمات المسخرة لهذا الكم الهائل من البشر الذي يكتنفه المبنى من تسهيلات النقل العمودي ومقاييس الحماية ناهيك عن نظام السيطرة والرقابة الصارمين.
وكان قد وقع الاختيار على المخطط الذي صممه المعماري الياباني مينورو ياماساكي، والذي كان يمثل نزعة حداثية كانت قد وسمت بها مدرسة العمارة اليابانية بعيد الحرب الثانية وتجسدت في إعادة بناء المدن الخربة. وقد تأثرت تلك العمائر بتيارات القرن العشرين وروادها، ومنهم ممن جسدها بجدارة مثل المعماري
كانزو تانك الذي أظهر تلك الحذاقة في جنبات مجمع الألعاب الأولمبية في طوكيو عام 1964 وما تبعها. وربما كان اختيار هذا المعماري لتلك المهمة الاستثنائية من باب الاعتراف والإعجاب بتلك المدرسة.

لقد اختير لهذا المشروع أكثر الأماكن أهمية والذي يعتبر القلب النابض لحركة الاقتصاد الاميركي والعالم
وهي تقع الى الغرب في جزيرة مانهاتن الواقعة بين هدسون وشرق نهر هارليم،
في مدينة نيويورك. ومن الطريف أن تلك الجزيرة التي تعتبر أرضها اليوم الاغلى
في العالم كان قد اشتراها الهولنديون بسعر سبعة آلاف دولار من مالكيها الهنود الحمر في النصف الأول للقرن السابع عشر ثم استحوذ عليها الانجليز تباعا. والمشروع يتربع على 6 هكتارات من تلك الأرض الغالية مما جعل اختيار بناء برجين توأمين بهذا الارتفاع يكتسي جدوى ومنطق سديد. وقد تضمن المشروع عند افتتاحه عام 1973 ماعدا البرجين على أربع بنايات ملحقة اخرى، اقل ارتفاعا. أولاها متكونة من ثمانية طوابق حجزتها المصالح الجمركية الاميركية والثانية والثالثة من تسعة طوابق تدعى (بلازا الشمالية والجنوبي&#1577 والرابعة فندق متكون من 250 حجرة يقع شرق الموقع.
وقد أختار المعماري ياماساكي أن يوزع تلك الكتل العمودية بشكل محيط ومطوق بحيث تحصر في وسطها ميدان مرتفع مساحته هكتارين أي ثلث المساحة الاجمالية. ولم يكن تخطيط البرجين أمرا جديدا فقد كان هذا الضرب من المساقط مألوفا في تقسيم المساحات البرجية وذلك باختيار قلب هيكلي مغلق يبنى من الخرسانة المسلحة التي يعاضدها هيكل حديدي مطوق. وتحوي هذه النواة في كنفها على وسائل الحركة العمودية من مصاعد وسلالم ومخازن ومجاري وتمديدات تقنية للهواء والكهرباء والماء والغاز وكذلك دورات المياه. وكان احتراق تلك النواة وذوبانها سببا في انهيار البرج. وتحيط بتلك النواة مساحات مفتوحة تخصص للموظفين مساحتها في كل برج 836.100 الف متر مربع وتحيطها النوافذ التي تفتح على الخارج ويبلغ عددها في كل برج 21000 نافذة يولج من خلالها النور الى داخل المبنى بمساحة زجاجية قدرها 28.800 متر مربع. وحيطان الواجهات نفذت من ألواح كبيرة مسبقة الصنع عمودية الوضع مقاساتها (11ط3&#1605، متكونة من ثلاثة صفوف من العناصر العمودية ويبلغ وزن كل منها 22 طنا. وقد استعمل الحديد الفولاذ في الهيكل عموما بوزن يزيد على 200 الف طن. أما سرداب المرآب الممتد على خمسة طوابق تحت الأرض يمكنه أن يحتضن ألفين من العربات. وفي خضم تلك التجمعات «الماردة» والكتل المهولة كان المهندس الانشائي مضطرا الى حساب كتل هائلة من الأساسات لتتحمل تلك الأثقال ناهيك عن الحفر لها بعمق بحيث تمس الأرض الصخرية الصحيحة والتي تقع على انخفاض 21م. وبذلك فقد كان على كتلة الأساسات أن تتحمل فوقها ثقلا قدره 1.250 مليون طن من البناء. ويزيد على ذلك في الاعتبار الكم الكبير من رواد المركز حيث قدر عدد الموظفين الثابتين يوميا في تلك المساحات بـ 50 الف شخص. أما المراجعين والزوار والسياح الذين يؤمون المركز يوميا فقدروا بمعدل 80 الف

شخص.
وقد دعى ذلك الكم من البشر الى جعل المخططين يأخذون بالحسبان امكانية توفير النقل العمودي السهل والسريع. حيث يحتوي كل برج من الأبراج العالية على 104 مصاعد تقع في النواة الخرسانية، ويمكنها أن تستوعب 55 راكبا مرة واحدة وتتحرك على نوعين من السرع، احداها فائقة السرعة تسير على طول ارتفاعات كبيرة جزئية من طول البناء او كلية له
والنوع الثاني أبطأ سرعة ويضطلع بالرفع الى الطوابق المفردة. والسريعة منها تصل سرعاتها في حينها الى 36 كلم في الساعة. وقد درست الحركة العمودية بحيث وزعت على ثلاث فئات تختص بكل منها مجموعة من تلك المصاعد حيث وزعت الحركة الأولى بين الطوابق (1 ـ 44) والثانية بين الطوابق (44 ـ 78) والثالثة بين الطوابق (78 ـ 110). وقد تم صنع هذا النظام «المصاعدي» بحيث يمكن التخيل من خلالها بأن البرج الواحد متكون من ثلاث عمارات تقع الواحدة فوق الأخرى. فمثلا الشخص الذي ينوي الصعود الى الطابق 65 يتوجب عليه أن يصعد حتى الطابق 44 بالنوع السريع ثم يتركه ليستقل النوع البطيء حتى الطابق 65. وبنفس المبدأ التسهيلي يسير عليه من يريد أن يصل الى الطابق 95 مثلا بحيث يستقل المصعد السريع دون توقف حتى الطابق 78 ومنه يباشر بأخذ النوع البطيء حتى الطابق 95. أما من ينوي الصعود من الطابق الأرضي حتى الطابق الأخير (110) فان الوقت الذي يستغرقه المصعد السريع للوصول الى ذلك الارتفاع يبلغ دقيقتين فقط. وهذا الوقت قد قدره المخمنون لكل من يريد أن يستعمل هذا النظام الى أي طابق تقريبا.
وكانت السقوف بمجملها سابقة الصنع بحيث كانت عملية نصبها في أماكنها قد اضطلعت بوقت قياسي قصير خلال عملية التنفيذ وقد كانت مقطعة على أجزاء تبلغ أبعادها (18 ط 3.95&#1605. أما الرافعات الهيدروليكية الخاصة التي كانت مثبتة فوق النواة الهيكلية الخرسانية فقد كانت لديها القدرة بتركيب كل ثلاثة طوابق مرة واحدة. وقد استغرق تثبيت الهياكل البنائية والغلق الخارجي لكل ثلاثة طوابق

بوقت قدره عشرة أيام وهذا يعني أن تركيب كل طوابق البرج قد تمت خلال عام، تضاف إليها عمليات التشطيب. وكانت الأعمدة الهيكلية المحيطة قد غلفت بمادة عازلة حراريا وتغلفها هياكل من الألمنيوم تحمل النوافذ والعناصر المتضامة للواجهات بحيث تضمن الحد المثالي من العزل. لقد كلف المشروع في حينه 700 مليون دولار، وكان هذا المبلغ يساوي خزينة الكثير من دول العالم الثالث، ولكن هدمها كلف أكثر من ذلك مثلما هي جدلية «البناء والهدم». وبينما كان وحيدا على الأرض أصبح اليوم متكررا ونجد ما يحاكيه في دبي وكوالامبور التي تفخر اليوم ببرجيها التوأمين الذين بقيا يناطحان السحاب والزمن ويبشران بمنافسة بين أصحاب الماضي وأهل المستقبل
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First virtual are that led the plane towards the goal they the kidnappers not are anybody other and.

And the second supposition an originally momentary existence, he is known and he become necessary a study all the eventualities.


Know all who his the in flying world relation is the in this accuracy operation does not can its but Ystheel he does in it a Lmjrd pilot he is he practiced on flying for a period a month or a month Or on young planes until in the planes that did in the percussion Shbeehh. The planes flew on heights low and Aama'r high hit her goals accurately between and with regard to the height and the deviation a right Yousra and, the plane turning, all that indicate an incisor indication she is for a professional pilot Jdan own an long years experience in a 'Lbweengh planes with a direction leadership flying wherever want, no.. But who specialized who he adds he is doing does not manage in the this quality example of flying and the movement until the civic pilots she is and need to militaries pilots own an experience on the deviation tough. The training schools for the high liking flying young same the passenger one often an, the for comparator domain between the training on an young airwoman between and the civic plane 'Lbweengh.


Then there a mission other issue:

If an argumentation supposed us and forged these are the apprentices until and the pilots my some experiences managed the dreamer of hitting and as a kind the success in the planes leadership the senior civilization hitting and accurately, if supposed us That all him so raved for the operation and the cause success was not sufficient:

He the tough jam in 'Lmmrat over a New York region over the filled American east in the special planes air that consider her airport who crowded the world airports, are the plane deviation of her track and a change Her height of what he planned his ordered dangerous extremely in the flying world by the air navigation and lead often to a disaster.


Our eyewitness how the plane fell Saudi Arabia in India Lmjrd an difference existence or a mistake from the pilot or so control tower performed that to a two planes crash in the heights, and as your abjection hear Ktheeran of for pilots statements of Houdath almost he talked because execute the plane obligation in an second other her track air accurately. Adapted for us tell the truth the three planes changed her track all and flew he increased who half-hour aerated the pilot without a air map on and approached from New York then bumped the commerce tower, Ystheel update this. The pilots have led the planes on an imposition and their munificence and deviated air very for the movement Twal through a diagram accurate Yqtrbwa or Ysadfwa a other plane in their way until he is The accident did not engage during a period any a complaint pilots of an a other plane existence on a his track soul air or laborious are clash in a other plane he is and avoided the accident. The supposition 'Lthaniyaaltee consider her American changed the for debate midwife and the world persuasion tried, and wonder if there he was kidnappers for what any a sign planes did not send call for help so? Are the sending operation does not need 10Mn increased seconds who the pilot happened how for a pressure the call for help button are hijacked flying suddenly in one second.
The kidnappers proceeded towards the pilot are so at the pilot at least 15 another of the free movement of the hijacking beginning until pray manage sending during which to the leadership cabin, also suddenly without manage the pilot and if sending One to control tower are her a hijacking way did not happen that accepted the Arabs is the bodies Daaaf then the in American comparison so frighten from possible they are Ywajhwa which formed the resistance of shapes And if Wlou the pilot manages speak for a periscopic tower during which for the favors.

The travel deliberated:


Did not separate for us how bought the kidnappers American the travel deliberated? Mentioned 'L'intrnt mean thus through they are 'Shtrouhamra they are applied credit card where so a numbers permit this the cards And real her friends names, who known is nobody an a credit card extraction manages his identity in files in and without Thbout America must of the security number presentation and as your abjection an address He arrives on him bills " the visa "? Where this information? Promised the kidnappers calculation numbers with uncovering in the banks American and a movement their moneys were actually receive moneys of the outside. He has occurred the information dissimulation is actually American did not arrive to her.


Then said they are numbers applied a stolen visa for persons others where so he the postal address that sent the tickets at buying through 'L'intrnt on him?


The entry occurred who a verse enters during a number on the net who during where so he this number? And his friend information? Accepted a month sent unbeknown the in electronic mail threat letter to A American President and a day defects the police hit the British a child did a Scotchman school and took an engagement on his father in sending this letter. How arrived to him and for am arrives to the numbers telephonic as of then the place that entered the grabber on 'L'intrnt from him.

And mentioned also they are pushed Nqdan value the ticket one 4000, that he lives in countries so the west knows the in that burden an monetary amount is mere especially with the Arabs for the issue who address always so frighten perceive Or the travel offices receiving Nqdan without the verification from the identity.


If were pushed " in the visa " and received the tickets Fouran at the office from so obvious the flying employee does in the audit and the name comparison in credit card and the name that the ticket pull out in his name where so she the in credit energies statements other time permit? How appear and are the names accused not correct.



The names:


Does not can to overstep eventualities:


1 - the kidnappers did not apply their names the truth.

2 - their names applied the truth.

3 - Their some his name applied real their some and his name changed real.

The first in passengers names lists announced her the lines American he was contain Arabic on a name, came where from so the names Arabic after that? As for the names and the photography list for the accused Arabs That announced her American discovered the secant in the evidence are defeat her not correct where an stolen their identity use occurred.


An infirmity wonders:


Accused announced that a used his travel permit was missing since a Kuwait liberation in a time in him Bin Laden in Saudi Arabia not is and at him problems no with American or others that and liberated Kuwait and her income American not are Bin Laden and. So frighten who possible is a Bin Laden group since 11a year entered Kuwait and permit hush for this the operation also permit an missing other send away since a year 95 he was in her time Bin Laden works as a contractor in Sudan he not is and his no base organizations or a ceiling.

An important other question the permits were missing used who 11, 6 years her some so requiring over the jurisdiction. So a permit adapted the line employee as over confirmation and identity before her the jurisdiction and adapted lived the kidnappers and opened a calculation in the banks pull out and in visa energies and rented cars in a finished permit.

And the more important question: why the kidnappers concentrated on a Saudi name impersonation?

He does in an operation in this accuracy if Bin Laden was in the brilliancy that he makes him the real names use wants he so also Seesaaa for an borrowed use names for several Arabic nationalities the world L'ifham are the Moslems Saudi not are only all against America and. Who his an interest in the concentration on Saudi Arabia and am his goal? He is scared there for this relation in the percussions that Saudi Arabia happened lately in Riyadh and the news?


A question:


If they were Moslem who in the percussions for what in an impersonation others names so did what he all in their way that understood and the operation for the death booby-trapped or her other in where The doer Ysaaa for a dissimulation his identity a fear who are touch you. Then if their intention was the charge removal of an specific organization who a door is first so Bin Laden does in a banishment any relations his in the accident is deterministic apparently not is the praise and in the event.


The pilots:


What fell or the plane dropped the Egyptian until the American face the charge for the pilot and fabricated cross-eyed the stories charitable glued with him the charge said Allahu Akbar. As for the latter percussions a Yttrqwa movie to modern mere of the pilots their names their experiences and their date in flying, why a harm was the suspicion then the concoction with the Arabic pilot the American pilot Mnzh Of mere the doubts? Wonder: since when the pilots joined in the work? They Qdama personnels knew their plant occurred in a mission a determinant for doing? What she their approaches intellectual Cultural? Where were and work the companies at this before their work? Military pilots have been previous? A fear their employment occurred suspected by way of ordinary? Their families and children Or Wra'hm not is one of he cries on them as of then the for death arrangers understanding? A fear reviews their some psychology clinics?

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What all a plane from the planes he registered a movement that happened its the contingency during a precedent month? Why does not announce of him? What stopped in an animation if were the planes closed For a maintenance work what for a period hyperplasia of today or spend the night in an Israeli airport 'La can are said are there an equipment or an equipment her installment occurred who accepted an security equipment Specific an United States inside or an outside for the remote control feature addition?


The photography Wkameerat the observation:

Can after the picture change use stolen identities and chewed make understand how before the service employees terrestrial in the airports this the identities in a soul her friends photography original? The kidnappers did in the selection between millions the permits stolen at them until chose what resemble them? In all the American airport especially and Wal'ourbiyakameerat an observation memorizes other a month moves at least in a memory a storage imagined an infirmity of differing ask: why American did not verify the accusation list appearance accepted Weeqarnwa between the photography that in the identities and the photography that in the observation Kameerat? We assert all the four planes passengers Kameerat has caught the observation their photography so an individual reply in big parts from the airport at and different the ports are and this 'Lkameerat capable in a picture supply clear for all A passenger. Then are them mentioned are a correspondence " the C came are " that contacted that issued in him For this the ascent card to the plane as of the observation that merge the time Kameerat manage a knowledge during an a registration equipment the this passenger picture in the second soul that were a standee in her in front of Kawntr The lines. Then why the accomplishment did not occur with 'Lkawntrat employees who received the passengers? Why he occurred their ignoring non and mentioned their names and their role in the testimony and the recognition on the kidnappers photography? Received the passengers? From they?


Asma momentary:

There an sideways evidence and can who during which the charge acquittal or a clinch.
So an ideal what if were one names accused he has traveled with him in a companionship his family or a shipping several Shnt or for an appointment traveled did not define him he but his sharpness the facing party 'La he indicates are The matter is normal he not is and his the in percussions relation.


Remote control:

The control not is afar in the plane an Khyaliya issue but she an experience so an attic he in it American did before refrainment occurred in her 8 years without passengers pilots and her drop was on the land and The experience in the origin a person in her.


A Gulf war scenario and the foe inducement:

Accepted a Gulf war in years.. The talk multiplied KA the English is especially of the force Iraqi in the west information and the press and clear are there a thing what target to him and the public opinion preparation for a matter what, wanted America a Gulf war Instructed to Kuwait in an increase the production for the pressure on a confrontation because and studied the mentality that he thinks in her a confrontation is the war who in her midwife was phrase of the everybody inducement for the behavior in the way that want her, inspire the American ambassadors for a confrontation is America he not is its a relation and he fell on the limits in the successions a confrontation entered Kuwait in the trap and all came with them for the fighting in the world except she is he was frighten who are A confrontation does and a diagram foils the war in the withdrawal, tried are to him she is changed an avenue in the war, the final appointment accepted latter days in and presented a numerous precious Baker meeting when to hear that interpreted Trajaaan in the news 'Mreekan be convinced a confrontation increased America does not can to fight. And a m will present him here a model the fastened in books evidence, men says the American informational plan industry that were Mqeeman in the news during the war: are America were frighten a withdrawal A confrontation in an a second other what American be sick so? Say the writer leaking occurred to New York Times the newspaper spread him to her as a secret news who " the C his E " Who the government is American a Mdblj tape prepared a confrontation voice in a picture Saddam Hussein and an installment his army orders from Kuwait in the withdrawal, the news as what American desire and to Iraqi moved who doubted they are Intelligent for the American press Mtabaaeen, 'Ouslouh to Saddam Hussein that he behaved also want American while to teach his conceit and his obstinacy of him a confrontation did to all the military choppers in issuance a decision that juvenile Began the war and a confrontation tax orders you on the television therefore listened did not in the withdrawal this a American plan, through the action apostasy this American guaranteed the war persistence until juvenile Actually a confrontation withdrawal. America managed an a state leader inducement in her brilliancy a deceit with a shiftiness befriended an infirmity to the war said are America her dealing be empty to in the works with the Moslems of the inducement also that want in a time Develop innocent facing free is free in his behaviors in him thus the method pursued him numerous from Arab countries in hitting Moslem.

Penetration the groups Moslem:

Wonder: why one does not does as an Bakari age members the liberation party in London and a leader what in a emigrants party Abu and a Egyptian for what and leave theirs The domain for the talk in the English channels and the Arab for the census and the invitation for the planes fall, or they are need to them Leeqoumwa in the role required of the west instigation against the Islam and the movement enlargement Moslem that she weaken In many what his visualization this personal are there names existing numerous in the square less what is said she is suspected of her and the work undertook the Moslem.


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Al-Shareef Al-Abdali
In the hour 03:04

07/26/04


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سؤال يبحث عن إجابة من الملايين في العالم الإسلامي الذي أصبحوا متهمين خلال أقل من ساعة من بداية الهجوم وللوصول إلى تصور عن الفاعلين ولعله التحليل الأول من نوعه وسننطلق من خلال محورين .

المحور الأول : تساؤلات وتحليل الغموض والأدلة التي ساقها الأمريكيون في اتهام المسلمين وبن لادن .


المحور الثاني : تحليل من خلال الربط بين الأحداث السابقة باللاحقة ووضع الحدث ضمن سياقه الزمني والسياسي والعقدي .


المحور الأول :


1- دقة الطيران وإصابة الهدف :


حاول الأمريكيون توجيه عملية التحقيق والبحث عن الفاعلين تجاه الربط بين الركاب العرب على الطائرة ومن تدرب منهم على الطيران حتى أصبح كل متدرب في نوادي الطيران التي تملأ أمريكا متهما! جعلوا من فرضيتين وكأنها حقائق مسلمة .

الفرضية الأولى أن الذي قاد الطائرة نحو الهدف هم الخاطفون وليس أي شخص آخر .

والفرضية الثانية وجود خاطفين أصلا ، ومعلوم أنه ينبغي دراسة جميع الاحتمالات .


يعلم كل من له علاقة بعالم الطيران أن عملية بهذه الدقة لا يمكن لها بل يستحيل أن يقوم بها طيار لمجرد أنه تدرب على الطيران لمدة شهر أو أشهر على طائرات صغيرة أو حتى شبيهه بالطائرات التي قامت بالتفجير . الطائرات حلقت على ارتفاعات منخفضة وبين عمائر شاهقة وضربت أهدافها بدقة من حيث الارتفاع والانحراف يمنة ويسرى ، دوران الطائرة ، كل ذلك يدل دلالة قاطعة أنها لطيار محترف جداً يملك خبرة سنوات طويلة في قيادة طائرات البوينغ وتوجيه الطائرة حيثما يريد ، لا .. بل من المتخصصين من يضيف أنه حتى الطيارين المدنيين لا يستطيعون القيام بمثل هذه النوعية من التحليق والحركة وأنها تحتاج إلى طيارين عسكريين يملكون خبرة على الانحراف الشديد . مدارس التدريب هي مدارس للهواة وعلى طائرات الصغيرة ذات الراكب الواحد غالبا ً، ولا مجال للمقارنة بين التدريب على طيارة صغيرة وبين الطائرة المدنية البوينغ .


ثم إن هناك قضية أخرى مهمة :

لو افترضنا جدلا وزورا أن هؤلاء المتدربين وحتى الطيارين قليلي الخبرة استطاعوا وكنوع من ضروب الحظ الخيالي النجاح في قيادة الطائرات المدنية الكبيرة وضرب الهدف بدقة ، لو افترضنا ذلك كله فهذا لم يكن كافيا لإنجاح العملية والسبب :

هو الازدحام الشديد في الممرات الجوية فوق الشرق الأمريكي المليء بالطائرات وخاصة فوق منطقة نيويورك التي يعتبر مطارها من أزحم مطارات العالم ، إن انحراف الطائرة عن مسارها وتغيير ارتفاعها عن ما هو مخطط له من قبل الملاحة الجوية أمر خطير جدا في عالم الطيران ويؤدي غالبا إلى كارثة .


قد شاهدنا كيف سقطت الطائرة السعودية في الهند لمجرد وجود اختلاف أو خطأ من الطيار أو برج المراقبة في الارتفاعات فأدى ذلك إلى ارتطام طائرتين ، وكذلك نسمع كثيراً عن تصريحات لطيارين عن حوداث كادت أن تحدث في آخر لحظة بسبب عدم التزام الطائرة مسارها الجوي بدقة . كيف لنا أن نصدق أن الطائرات الثلاثة غيرت مسارها كاملا وطارت أكثر من نصف ساعة بدون خارطة جوية وعلى هوى الطيار واقتربت من نيويورك ثم صدمت برج التجارة ، يستحيل أن يحدث هذا . إن الطيارين على فرض وجودهم قد قادوا الطائرات وانحرفوا طوال نصف ساعة من خلال مخطط دقيق جداً للحركة الجوية لم يقتربوا أو يصادفوا طائرة أخرى في طريقهم حتى أنه لم يقدم أي طيار شكوى خلال فترة الحادث عن وجود طائرة أخرى على نفس مساره الجوي أو كاد أن يصطدم بطائرة أخرى وأنه تفادى الحادث . الفرضية الثانيةالتي اعتبرها الأمريكيون غير قابلة للنقاش وحاولوا إقناع العالم وهي فرضية وجود خاطفين ، ونتساءل لو كان هناك خاطفون فلماذا لم ترسل أية طائرة إشارة استغاثة؟ إن عملية إرسال الرسالة لا تحتاج أكثر من10 ثواني من الطيار لضغط زر الاستغاثة كيف حدث أن اختطفت الطائرة فجأة بثانية واحدة .فلو توجه الخاطفون نحو الطيار فإن لدى الطيار على الأقل 15 ثانية من الحركة الحرة من بداية الاختطاف حتى يصلوا إلى قمرة القيادة يستطيع خلالها إرسال استغاثة ، كذلك إغلاق أجهزة الاتصال فجأة بدون أن يستطيع الطيار ولو إرسال كلمة واحدة إلي برج المراقبة إنها طريقة اختطاف لم تحدث قبل ذلك ثم إن العرب ضعاف الأجسام مقارنة بالأمريكيين فهل من المعقول أنهم لم يواجهوا أي شكل من أشكال المقاومة ولو للحظات يستطيع خلالها الطيار التحدث لبرج المراقبة .


تذاكر السفر :


لم يفصل لنا الأمريكيون كيف اشترى الخاطفون تذاكر السفر؟ ذكروا مرة أنهم اشتروها عن طريق الإنترنت وهذا يعني أنهم استخدموا بطاقة الائتمان الفيزا فأين إذن أرقام هذه البطاقات وأسماء أصحابها الحقيقيين ، من المعلوم أن لا أحد يستطيع استخراج بطاقة ائتمان بدون ثبوت هويته في ملفات تقديم الطلب وفي أمريكا لابد من تقديم الرقم الأمني وكذلك عنوان يصل عليه فواتير "الفيزا"؟ أين هذه المعلومات؟ وأين أرقام وكشوفات حسابات الخاطفين في البنوك الأمريكية وحركة أموالهم وهل كانوا فعلا يتلقون أموالا من الخارج . هل تم إخفاء هذه المعلومات وهل فعلا لم يصل إليها الأمريكيون .


ثم إذا قالوا أنهم استخدموا أرقام فيزا مسروقة لأشخاص آخرين فأين هو العنوان البريدي الذي أرسلت عليه التذاكر عند الشراء من خلال الإنترنت؟


الدخول على الشبكة يتم من خلال رقم آي بي يدخل من خلاله فأين هو هذا الرقم؟ ومعلومات صاحبه؟ قبل أشهر أرسل مجهول رسالة تهديد بالبريد الإلكتروني إلى الرئيس الأمريكي وخلال يوم داهمت الشرطة البريطانية طفلا في مدرسة اسكتلندية قام بإرسال هذه الرسالة وأخذت تعهدا على والده . كيف وصلوا إليه ولم يصلوا إلى الأرقام الهاتفية ومن ثم المكان الذي دخل منه المختطف على الإنترنت .


وذكروا أيضاً أنهم دفعوا نقداً قيمة التذكرة الواحدة 4000 دولار ، فالذي يعيش في بلاد الغرب يعلم أن مجرد حمل مبلغ نقدي بهذا القدر شبهة خاصة مع العرب الذين يتعرضون دائماً للمسألة فهل يعقل أن يقبل موظفو الخطوط أو مكاتب السفر استلام قيمة التذكرة نقداً بدون التأكد من الهوية .


وإذا كانوا دفعوا "بالفيزا" واستلموا التذاكر فوراً عند المكتب فمن البديهي أن يقوم موظف الطيران بالتدقيق ومقارنة الاسم في بطاقة الائتمان والاسم الذي استخرجت التذكرة باسمه فأين هي إذن مرة أخرى بيانات بطاقات الائتمان؟ وكيف تبين أن الأسماء المتهمة غير صحيحة .



الأسماء :


لا يمكن أن يتجاوز الحدث احتمالات ثلاثة :


1- لم يستخدم الخاطفون أسماءهم الحقيقة .

2- استخدموا أسماءهم الحقيقة .

3- بعضهم استخدم اسمه الحقيقي وبعضهم غير اسمه الحقيقي .


أول لائحة بأسماء الركاب أعلنتها الخطوط الأمريكية لم تكن تحتوي على اسم واحد عربي ، فمن أين جاءت الأسماء العربية بعد ذلك؟ أما لائحة الأسماء والصور للعرب المتهمين التي أعلنها الأمريكيون تبين بالدليل القاطع أن أغلبها غير صحيح حيث تم استخدام هويتهم المسروقة .


وهنا نتساءل :


أحد المتهمين أعلن أن جواز سفره المستخدم مفقود منذ تحرير الكويت في وقت كان فيه بن لادن في السعودية وليس لديه مشاكل لا مع الأمريكيين أو غيرهم والذي حرر الكويت ودخلها هم الأمريكيون وليس بن لادن . فهل من المعقول أن جماعة بن لادن منذ 11 عاما دخلت الكويت واخفت جواز السفر لهذه العملية كذلك جواز سفر آخر مفقود منذ عام 95 في وقتها كان بن لادن يعمل كمقاول في السودان وليس له لا تنظيم قاعدة أو سقف .
سؤال آخر مهم إذا كانت الجوازات المستخدمة مفقودة من 11 , 6 أعوام فبعضها حتما منتهية الصلاحية . فكيف إذن قبلها موظف الخطوط كإثبات هوية وهي منتهية الصلاحية وكيف عاش الخاطفون وفتحوا حسابات في البنوك واستخرجوا بطاقات فيزا واستأجروا سيارات بجواز منتهي .

والسؤال الأهم : لماذا ركز الخاطفون على انتحال أسماء سعودية ؟

إذا كان بن لادن بالذكاء الذي يجعله يقوم بعملية بهذه الدقة ولا يريد استخدام الأسماء الحقيقية فهو أيضا سيسعى لاستخدام أسماء مستعارة لعدة جنسيات عربية لإفهام العالم أن المسلمين جميعا ضد أمريكا وليس السعوديين فقط . من له مصلحة في التركيز على السعودية وما هو هدفه؟ وهل هناك علاقة لهذا التركيز بالتفجيرات التي حدثت مؤخرا في الرياض والخبر السعودية؟


سؤال :


إذا كان إسلاميون هم الذين قاموا بالتفجيرات فلماذا يقومون بانتحال أسماء آخرين ما هو مبرر ذلك فهم جميعا في طريقهم للموت والعملية ليست زرع سيارة مفخخة أو غيرها بحيث يسعى الفاعل لإخفاء هويته خوفا من أن يمسك . ثم إذا كان قصدهم إبعاد التهمة عن تنظيم معين فمن باب أولى أن يقوم بن لادن بنفي أي علاقة له بالحادث بشكل قطعي وليس الإشادة بالحدث .


الطيارون :


ما إن سقطت أو أسقطت الطائرة المصرية حتى وجه الأمريكيون التهمة للطيار واختلقوا حوله القصص وأخيرا ألصقوا به التهمة لأنه قال الله أكبر . أما التفجيرات الأخيرة فلم يتطرقوا إلى مجرد الحديث عن الطيارين أسماءهم وخبراتهم وتاريخهم في الطيران ، لماذا كان سوء الظن ثم التلفيق مع الطيار العربي بينما الطيار الأمريكي منزه عن مجرد الشكوك؟ نتساءل : منذ متى التحق الطيارون في العمل؟ هل هم موظفون قدامى أم جدد تم زرعهم للقيام بمهمة محددة؟ ما هي توجهاتهم الفكرية والثقافية؟ وأين كانوا يعملون قبل عملهم لدى هذه الشركات؟ هل كانوا طيارين عسكريين سابقين؟ وهل تم توظيفهم بطريقة عادية أم مشبوهة؟ هل لهم عائلات وأطفال أم ليس ورائهم أحد يبكي عليهم ومن ثم فهم مهيئين للموت؟ وهل يراجع بعضهم عيادات نفسية ؟


الطائرات :


ما هو سجل حركة كل طائرة من الطائرات التي حدثت لها الحادثة خلال أشهر سابقة؟ لماذا لا يعلن عنه؟ ماذا لو كانت الطائرات توقفت في ورش مغلقة لعمل صيانة ما لمدة تزيد عن اليوم أو باتت واقفة في مطار إسرائيلي مثلا ألا يمكن أن نقول أن هناك أجهزة أو معدات تم تركيبها من قبل أجهزة أمنية معينة داخل أو خارج الولايات المتحدة لإضافة خاصية التحكم عن بعد؟


الصور وكاميرات المراقبة :

يمكن أن يقوم أي مختطف باستخدام هويات مسروقة بعد تغيير الصورة ولكن لا نفهم كيف قبل موظفو الخدمة الأرضية في المطارات هذه الهويات بنفس صور أصحابها الأصليين؟ هل قام الخاطفون بالاختيار بين ملايين الجوازات المسروقة لديهم حتى اختاروا ما يشابههم؟ في كل مطار وخاصة الأمريكية والأوربية كاميرات مراقبة بذاكرة تخزين تحفظ تحركات آخر شهر على الأقل وهي تصور من مختلف الزوايا وهنا نسأل : لماذا لم يتأكد الأمريكيون قبل صدور لائحة الاتهام ويقارنوا بين الصور التي في الهويات والصور التي في كاميرات المراقبة؟ إننا نجزم أن جميع ركاب الطائرات الأربعة قد التقطت كاميرات المراقبة صورهم فردا فردا في أجزاء كبيرة من المطار وعند مختلف المداخل وأن هذه الكاميرات كفيلة بتزويد صورة واضحة لكل راكب . ثم إنهم ذكروا أن مراسلة "السي آن أن" التي اتصلت في زوجها قد حددت مقعد الراكب ومن المعلوم أن جهاز الكمبيوتر يحدد الدقيقة والثانية التي أصدرت فيه لهذا الراكب بطاقة الصعود إلى الطائرة ومن خلال أجهزة تسجيل كاميرات المراقبة التي تدمج الوقت نستطيع معرفة صورة هذا الراكب في نفس اللحظة التي كان واقفا فيها أمام كاونتر الخطوط . ثم لماذا لم يتم التحقيق مع موظفو الكاونترات الذين استقبلوا الركاب؟ لماذا تم تجاهلهم وعدم ذكر أسمائهم ودورهم في الشهادة والتعرف على صور الخاطفين؟ استقبلوا الركاب؟ من هم؟


أسما الخاطفين :

هناك دلائل جانبية وقرائن يمكن من خلالها تبرئة أو تثبيت التهمة .
فمثلا ماذا لو كان أحد الأسماء المتهمة قد سافر برفقة عائلته أو شحن معه عدة شنط أو سافر لموعد لم يحدده هو بل حدده الطرف المقابل ألا يدل أن الأمر طبيعي وليس له علاقة بالتفجيرات .


التحكم عن بعد :

التحكم بالطائرة عن بعد ليست قضية خيالية بل هي تجربة فعلية قام بها الأمريكيون قبل 8 سنوات تم فيها إقلاع طائرة بوينغ بدون ركاب وطيارين وهبوطها على الأرض وكانت التجربة في الأصل لاختبار احتراق الطائرة عند استخدام وقود غير سريع الاشتعال فيما لو هبطت بدون عجلات وقد أقلعت الطائرة وهبطت بتحكم آلي كامل بدون وجود أي شخص فيها .


سيناريو حرب الخليج واستدراج الخصم :

قبل حرب الخليج بسنوات .. كثر الحديث في الإعلام الغربي والصحافة الإنجليزية خاصة عن القوة العراقية وكان واضحا أن هناك شيء ما يهدفون إليه وتهيئة الرأي العام لأمر ما ، أرادت أمريكا حرب الخليج أوعزت إلى الكويت بزيادة الإنتاج للضغط على صدام ولأنها درست العقلية التي يفكر فيها صدام فإن الحرب من بدايتها كانت عبارة عن استدراج الجميع للتصرف بالطريقة التي تريدها ، أوحت السفيرة الأمريكية لصدام ان أمريكا ليس لها علاقة بالخلافات على الحدود ووقع صدام في الفخ ودخل الكويت وجاءت بالعالم كله للقتال معهما إلا أنها كانت تخشى من أن يقوم صدام بالانسحاب ويفشل مخطط الحرب ، حاولت أن توحي إليه أنها غير جادة بالحرب ، قبل الموعد النهائي وفي الأيام الأخيرة عرضت لقاء بيكر وعزيز كثيرون عندما سمعوا بالخبر فسروا ذلك تراجعاً أمريكاً اقتنع صدام أكثر أن أمريكا لا يمكن أن تحارب . وما ستعرضه هنا نموذج دليل مثبت بالكتب ، يقول أحد رجال فريق صناعة الخطة الإعلامية الأمريكية الذي كان مقيماً في الخبر أثناء الحرب : إن أمريكا كانت تخشى انسحاب صدام في آخر لحظة فماذا فعل الأمريكيون؟ يقول الكاتب تم تسريب خبر متعمد إلى نيويورك تايمز نشرته الجريدة كخبر سري وصل إليها من "السي أي إيه" من أن الحكومة الأمريكية أعدت شريط مدبلج بصورة صدام حسين وتركيب صوت صدام يأمر جيشه بالانسحاب من الكويت ، الخبر وكما يرغب الأمريكيون انتقل إلى العراقيين الذين ظنوا أنهم أذكياء متابعين للصحافة الأمريكية ، أوصلوه إلى صدام حسين الذي تصرف كما يريد الأمريكيون فيما يعلمون عنه غروره ومكابرته قام صدام بإصدار قرار لجميع القطاعات العسكرية بأنه لو حدث أن بدأت الحرب وخرج صدام على التلفزيون يأمركم بالانسحاب فلا تسمعوا لذلك لأن هذا خطة أمريكية ، من خلال ردة الفعل هذه ضمن الأمريكيون استمرار الحرب حتى لو حدث فعلا انسحاب صدام . أمريكا بذكائها استطاعت استدراج زعيم دولة صاحب مكر ودهاء إلى الحرب وهنا نقول أن أمريكا أيضاً لا يخلو تعاملها مع الإسلاميين من الاستدراج ليقومون بالأعمال التي يريدون في وقت يظهرون فيه أبرياء بينما الطرف المقابل حر طليق في تصرفاته وهذا الأسلوب اتبعته الكثير من الدول العربية في ضرب الحركات الإسلامية .

اختراق الجماعات الإسلامية :

نتساءل : لماذا لا يقوم الإنجليز بإسكات واعتقال أشخاص مثل عمر بكري أحد أعضاء حزب التحرير في لندن وزعيم ما يسمى بحزب المهاجرون وأبو حمزة المصري ولماذا يتركون لهم المجال للحديث في القنوات الإنجليزية والعربية للإفتاء والدعوة لإسقاط الطائرات ، أم أنهم يحتاجون إليهم ليقوموا بالدور المطلوب من تحريض الغرب ضد الإسلام وتضخيم الحركة الإسلامية التي هي اضعف بكثير مما تصوره هذه الشخصيات ان هناك أسماء كثيرة موجودة في الساحة أقل ما يقال عنها أنها مشبوهة وتنكب العمل الإسلامي .


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